Reports worldwide have incorrectly stated Medjugorje visionary Ivan Dragicevic is banned from parishes in which he has his apparitions...
Updated November 8, 2013 A.D.
November 7, 2013 A.D.
Medjugorje Ivan NOT Banned from Apparitions in Parishes
Reports worldwide have incorrectly stated Medjugorje visionary Ivan Dragicevic is banned from parishes in which he is scheduled to have his apparitions. Below is a statement to clarify the Apostolic Nuncio's letter to the United States Bishops. It is followed by the Nuncio's letter, and then by a very important writing from A Friend of Medjugorje that was written a month and a half ago, and which puts the circumstances of the following into a more clear perspective.
Statement About the Nuncio's Letter
November 7, 2013
“These Medjugorje apparitions or supernatural revelations have not yet been formally approved by the Church. Therefore, clerics and the faithful are not permitted to participate in meetings or public celebrations during which the credibility of such apparitions would be taken for granted. But it is perfectly okay to believe in these apparitions and attend them in parishes. For example, a host church can say Ivan’s apparition will be at 5:40 p.m. To comply with the Most Reverend Gerhard Ludwig Mueller’s letter to the USCCB Conference, you simply add to the invitation or announcement of the apparition time, ‘These apparitions have not been approved formally by the Church.’ The parish, the clergy and the faithful would then be in compliance with the Apostolic Nunciature of the United States of America. PN 3980.
“The letter, informing all U.S. bishops, never states the cancellation of a Medjugorje visionary’s visit, such as Ivan’s schedule. It states Ivan is scheduled to appear at certain parishes around the country. Archbishop Carlo Marie Vigano continues, ‘It is anticipated, moreover, that Mr. Dragicevic will be receiving “apparitions” during these scheduled appearances.’ It never states cancelling or banning Ivan’s visits. It stipulates only the requirement that the credibility of the apparitions not be taken for granted. Therefore, the simple statement suffices, “These apparitions are not formally approved by the Church.” Ivan, therefore, is free along with parishes, clerics and the faithful to have meetings, conferences and public celebrations as long as the above “not formally approved” statement is made so that the credibility of the apparitions not be taken for granted. The apparitions have not been proven or disproven. It is perfectly okay to believe in these apparitions, and to attend these events.
Update: An August 21, 1996 Press Release by Vatican spokesman, Navarro-Valls was issued to stop the misinterpretation of the April 10, 1991 Yugoslavian Conference of Bishop’s statement which said, “On the basis of the research that has been done, it is not possible to state that there were apparitions or supernatural revelations.” Dr. Navarro-Valls said, in regards to the many who were viewing the statement incorrectly:
Navarro: “You cannot tell people not to go there (Medjugorje) without proof that the apparitions are false. So far there is none (proof) thus anyone can go there if they so wish.”
Navarro felt it was also necessary to report the above because a statement made by Archbishop Bertone about the April 10, 1991 Yugoslavian Bishop’s statement was also being interpreted and twisted to stop Medjugorje gatherings. Bertone, at the time, was Cardinal Ratzinger’s secretary, who was the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Navarro said:
“It is sad that the words of Archbishop Bertone should be understood in such a distorted way. Has the church and the Vatican said no to Medjugorje? Not at all.”
The following is the letter of the Nuncio that is being referring to in making a statement. Reading the letter carefully, one can see clearly that the Pro Nuncio's letter below, was widespread reported, and interpreted incorrectly.
In light of the events that have transpired over the past 24 hours concerning the above letter to the US Conferene of Catholic Bishops, we are publishing a writing of A Friend of Medjugorje that was printed in Caritas of Birmingham’s October, 2013 Words of the Harvester’s publication. A Friend of Medjugorje wrote this on September 25, 2013 and it is a timely response, even a prophetic response, to those who will misconstrue the Pro Nuncio’s statement to be negative against Medjugorje and those who follow these apparitions. For Our Lady’s followers, however, it will fuel the fire of your devotion to be all the more active in spreading and promoting Her apparitions and messages. The first half of the writing is seeing Medjugorje in a way that most people do not perceive it, and the second half is the portion that is prophetic in light of what has happened in the last 24 hours of November 7, 2013.
“You Cannot Spread Medjugorje?”
By A Friend of Medjugorje
With the beginning of the school year, students’ goal is graduation to the next grade when school ends. Going to the next level in life is cored into nature. Cut a tree down and you will know how old it is. Every single year a new ring is added. It is a gradual thing, a graduation when the ring has completed its growth for the year. We see this effect in everything – in work, seeking the next level of sales or production, inventing more advanced technology than the present. Of course, these are generally viewed as positive graduation of natural progression. There is negative graduation. No one could have imagined the level we have graduated to from 30 years ago. The graduation of sin and its propagation and progression – sins hardly knowledgeable just three decades ago which are normalized in the culture today. The assault on the family, the assault upon redefining marriage, the assault against Christians for taking Biblical stands in their work, their companies, in civil positions and yes, even in their churches. As the graduation of sin matures in the culture, a ripening of circumstances heads for a collision course, with a segment of people who are aligning themselves to One who knew where we would be in thirty-two years from June of 1981. She strategically calculated the time and could not wait another day to begin building a people to graduate, to confront the evil day we now live in. Shortly after the first apparition of the Mother of God, She appeared saying She comes as the Queen of Peace. She immediately took up the task to build a huge army from a tiny speck of geography upon the earth, no larger than a square meter, on which the Queen of Heaven appeared, a place within a tiny village. The next day the Queen of the Universe expanded Her claim of the area that was to be known for Her apparition site, supernaturally ‘gliding’ the six chosen youth to come to Her up the hillside.
The Queen of the world, setting foot on this new Holy Land, thereby claimed for Heaven a flag of Her apparitions staked into the ground. She came to conquer and take over a village the hill overlooked. Upon captivating the village’s inhabitants, She expanded the geography to take claim by appearing on what was known as Cross Mountain. Five villages beneath the Cross were claimed by the Queen of the Ages.
The Woman of Revelation appeared daily with twelve stars above Her head, clothed with the sun, expanding Her territory both in souls and lands. Many turned everything they had over to Her through consecrating themselves, their homes and lands, their towns and nations. She did this first with the six children She appeared to. Next, She did it to the villagers. Next, She did it to the world. The Queen of Nations plans to claim all of them and every heart. The Queen did this by the principle “it is not important what you know, it is important who you know.” Our Lady introduced the six to Her. They went from a status of common people to a group whose friend was royalty. Suddenly they were part of the Queen’s court, an inner circle of six who were courted by all the villagers. They were suddenly sought out, not because of who they were, rather because of ‘who they knew.’ The villagers wanted favors and made requests for the riches of blessings that the six could go to the Queen and ask for things that no king upon the earth could give. The Queen relayed to them, “I will give you advice as a Mother,” a personage who has the ‘authority of influence’ being the Queen who can achieve literally anything asked for licitly. This intimate relationship with the six was formally expanded to the whole village as a parish on March 1, 1984 and ran to January 8, 1987.
The Queen began to give messages every Thursday for the parish and formation for the 5 villages below the Cross and Apparition Mountain. The Queen said:
September 26, 1985
“…by fasting you will achieve and cause me the joy of the whole plan, which God is planning here in Medjugorje, being fulfilled…”
Medjugorje: a place upon the earth touched by a grace to be made into an idea to be propagated across all the earth. The scope of this plan should be clear as to its magnitude. Our Lady said:
September 26, 1985
“…the whole plan, which God is planning…”
What is the whole plan? The Queen stopped Her Thursday messages once the villagers were graduated to understand the spiritual life, and She changed to the next step of forming all the earth through messages She began giving to all the people on the planet for the purpose of:
September 26, 1985
“…the whole plan, which God is planning…”
What is the plan? The first monthly message was given on January 25, 1987. Our Lady said:
“…a great plan for the salvation of mankind…”
The center of this plan is the geography known as Medjugorje. The Queen tells the people of the world on June 25, 2007:
“…you are all important in this great plan, which God leads through Medjugorje. God desires to convert the entire world…”
However, many have yet to understand, Medjugorje is not to be confined to a few hundred acres in Bosnia-Hercegovina. Medjugorje is to be everywhere, every parish of the world, every village of the world. Your home place is to be made into the “idea” of Medjugorje. Medjugorje is to become the world. All changes in the world, to save the world have and will come from Medjugorje and geography everywhere upon the earth is to become Medjugorje. A place the Queen Herself has said:
March 21, 1985
“…I have chosen this parish, one more dear to me than the others, in which I have gladly remained when the Almighty sent me…”
The voice of the Queen has called out to the world for the last 26 years from January 25, 1987, giving advice as a mother, because She is determined to carry out the whole plan:
“…the whole plan, which God is planning…”
A plan of God which She states:
June 25, 2007
“…God desires to convert the entire world…”
What of those who are unreachable to convert? Our Lady said:
March 18, 1998
“…I call you to be my light, in order to enlighten all those who still live in darkness, to fill their hearts with Peace, my Son…”
Thereby, the Queen plans to leave no one with an excuse of not hearing Her call or receiving a grace to convert. Those who fall in the ‘loophole’ of not hearing Her call because they were not believers became the focus of the next graduation of Medjugorje – a new growth ring was started. On February 2, 1997, Our Lady appeared to Mirjana and told her to tell everyone She would be having apparitions and everyone could come. Our Lady told Mirjana the purpose of the second of the month apparitions was:
“…that much prayer is needed for those who have not yet come to know the love of God…”
The next month, March 2, 1997, Our Lady said:
“Dear children, pray for your brothers who haven’t experienced the love of the Father, for those whose only importance is life on earth. Open your hearts towards them and see in them my Son, who loves them. Be my light and illuminate all souls where darkness reigns…”
So we have six visionaries formed and nurtured by a Queen who became a mother and friend to them, weekly messages for the formation of the parish, 25th of the month messages for the formation of the children of the world who were willing to be guided by the Queen Mother. Then the 2nd of the month to those who do not know the love of God, that they may have a grace to come and know God through those formed by Our Lady via the six, via the parish, via the Queen’s children across the world to those who do not know the love of God. A great calculated plan for the salvation of the world! Yet, there is more.
Another aspect of the 2nd of the month messages for non-believers is those fruits of the three growth rings of the six, the parish, and the world. All have to be purified of aspects of non-belief by the 2nd of the month messages. This part of the plan was a surprise to many of Our Lady’s followers, that Our Lady was talking to us who believe in Her, that had non-belief in us. Many leaders of the Medjugorje world rejected this notion, while these writings advocated this from the beginning of the 2nd of the month apparitions. Our Lady finally proved this to be the case on June 2, 2011 when She said:
“…As I call you to prayer for those who have not come to know the love of God, if you were to look into your hearts you would comprehend that I am speaking about many of you…”
Still another graduation of a growth ring threaded throughout these years of apparitions is where the Queen is most happy in Her apparitions. On Apparition Mountain for Ivan’s prayer group apparitions. She is almost always very joyful, comes often with angels, often the longest apparition times, and often with a message. Our Lady is free from the entanglement, bureaucracy, and those elements and structure which stymies, prevents Her on earth from fully carrying out the plans God has given Her to implement for the world. Layers of thought and complicated restrictions built through the ages of the Church are restrictive to the freedom the Queen needs in this time of man’s history to convert the whole world in fulfillment of God’s desires. St. Catherine, in Rue de Bac, faced many obstacles to institute what Our Lady wanted. Time lost on implementation is the opportunity of salvation lost to souls who die in the interim, going to perdition during the time they may have been saved by what the Queen came for. Past plans by St. Faustina, the three visionaries of Fatima, whose arrest caused a diminishing of the miracle given on October 13th when God performed miracles with the sun.
But this is not to happen in Medjugorje which is Our Lady’s last call to conversion for the world – our last apparitions of the Queen guiding the masses of children. This is why Medjugorje has not been approved. This is why Medjugorje will not be approved at this moment up until now. This is because God wills it to be so. The Queen must be free to act. Free to enact. Free to form all those things that can be stopped, stymied, even killed, those aspects of what God wanted instituted through the Medjugorje apparitions.
This is the Queen’s moment. This moment Our Lady’s hands must be free. This is the moment Our Lady tells the laity:
October 25, 1996
“…Through you, I wish to renew the world…”
You do not need permission to spread Medjugorje. You do not have to ask for permission, you have it automatically through Baptism. You not only have the permission granted to evangelize, but a duty. It is Our Lady who tells you directly:
February 25, 1995
“…Today I invite you to become missionaries of my messages…”
Do not wait around in response to the crowd who tells you “Medjugorje is not approved!” This is a grace given to us by God to move in union with the grace the Church gives; that Medjugorje, the Queen’s apparitions, and Her messages can be propagated. There is no question that Pope John Paul II’s third Luminous Mystery was inspired by Our Lady when he called it:
The Proclamation of the Kingdom of God and the Call to Conversion
The whole world is being called to conversion because it is God who calls the world to conversion…for the last time. It cannot be otherwise for the Queen of the Church told us on June 25, 2007:
“…God desires to convert the entire world…”
No, there is no time to wait, worrying about the sluggish, the nay-sayers, and the inserters who put themselves between you and the Church, who tell you what the Church allows and does not allow. Look at what the Church allows in freedom yourself. You do not need to be told by detractors what you yourself can read and study. The gift God gives us through the Church through Baptism. To hesitate, to wait, to procrastinate only means those who will die today who are going to perdition may have been touched by a conversion through you. We tell you to date, it is God’s plan Medjugorje not be approved. It had to remain open and free, untouched by those enemies against Medjugorje who, if it gained Church approval, would have been given avenues to navigate towards the apparitions to stifle, stymie, slow Our Lady down, even silence Her. If Medjugorje was approved, would the three warnings be released? An element of the Church would certainly say,
“What if the first secret is announced and it does not happen, yet the apparitions have been approved? It would be prudent for us to wait until after it occurs as we must protect Medjugorje and its approval if the secret does not happen.”
Medjugorje’s survival, to date, is because it has not been approved. Out of thousands of messages, where has Our Lady shown Her desire for Medjugorje to be approved? The Queen is not waiting and, as a newly approved apparition in France that occurred several centuries ago, the visionary who saw Our Lady told the priests who came to stop the people from coming to the apparition, to condemn the apparitions, that Our Lady said: “You who have been given power to bring down God to the altar, have not been given power over me.” Stunned by the profound statement, the priest and his entourage backed down and people continued to come.
Our Lady of Medjugorje said in 1984-1985:
“When you will be in Heaven, you will understand why I am so pressed.”
Our Lady’s message of being ‘pressed’ shows a concern, not for Church approval rather for the time table She is on to accomplish Her plans.
A pico second is the amount of time it takes for the speed of light to pass over the width of a strand of hair! Our Lady’s time is limited. God will act sometime in the near future. We will be seconds before the pico second of God’s decision becoming His actions. Our Lady’s time will have passed while many do nothing, waiting for it to be approved. Sad will it be, tragic will it be for those who will have to grievously repent for what they could have done but did not want to.
August 25, 2013
“…I do not desire for you, dear children, to have to repent for everything that you could have done but did not want to…”
Many will not understand the above writing. Some will even accuse us of being against the Church, others perhaps will scoff. Our Lady says you must pray and grasp why She is coming and its greatness. Our Lady said:
October 25, 1988
“…pray that you may comprehend the greatness of this message…”
For you who do, you will begin to see that no obstacle, no road block is to stop all out efforts to respond to the Queen’s call for the conversion of the entire world. When Medjugorje is approved, how many souls will have graduated in this life to an eternity of death. Our Lady wants life…now…not later. Her ways, Her call, Her very presence upon our geography of planet earth, reverberates a message of a collision in the culture of the children of light vs. the children of darkness. Who will win those from the other?
Our Lady does not want us to waste time. It is She who says:
May 2, 2012
“…do not waste time…”
Act now, today for it is Our Lady who said:
March 17, 1989
“…Prepare yourself to look at Jesus ‘eye to eye.’…”
What more can be said?
A plea to seriousness,
September 25, 2013 A.D.
Now that we have this clarification, below is a statement that can be used for materials, flyers, posters, etc., for any Medjugorje events that you plan or organize in your parish or other place.
The following special statement for the position of the faithful in regards to Medjugorje and its messages and remain obedient to the Church - This latest statement should appear in all your publications or event materials:
So as not to take for granted the credibility of the Medjugorje Apparitions, it is stated that the Medjugorje apparitions are not formally approved by the Church.
May 1, 2015 A.D.
No attempt is intended to pre-empt the Church on the validity of the Medjugorje Apparitions. They are private revelation waiting the Church’s final judgment1. In the interim, these private revelations are allowed by, and for, the faithful to have devotion to and to be spread legally by the Church. Devotion and the propagation of private revelations can be forbidden only if the private revelation is condemned because of anything it contains which contravenes faith and morals according to AAS 58 (1966) 1186 Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Medjugorje has not been condemned nor found to have anything against faith or morals, therefore it is in the grace of the Church to be followed by the faithful. By the rite of Baptism one is commissioned and given the authority to evangelize. “By Baptism they share in the priesthood of Christ, in his prophetic and royal mission.”2 One does not need approval to promote or to have devotions to private revelations or to spread them when in conformity to AAS 58 (1966) 1186, as the call to evangelize is given when baptized. These apparitions have not been approved formally by the Church. Caritas of Birmingham, the Community of Caritas and all associated with it, realize and accept that the final authority regarding the Queen of Peace, Medjugorje and happenings related to the apparitions, rests with the Holy See in Rome. We at Caritas, willingly submit to that judgment. While having an amiable relationship with the Diocese of Birmingham and a friendly relationship with its bishop, Caritas of Birmingham as a lay mission is not officially connected to the Diocese of Birmingham, Alabama, just as is the Knights of Columbus. 3 The Diocese of Birmingham’s official position on Caritas is neutral and holds us as Catholics in good standing.
1. The Church does not have to approve the apparitions. The Church can do as She did with the apparitions of Rue du Bac in Paris and the Miraculous Medal. The Church never approved these apparitions. She gave way to the people’s widespread acceptance of the Miraculous Medal and thereby the Apparitions to St. Catherine. Sensus Fidelium (latin, meaning “The Sense of the Faithful”), regarding Medjugorje is that the “sense” of the people says that “Mary is here in Medjugorje.”
2. Catechism of the Catholic Church 2nd Edition
3. The Knights of Columbus also are not officially under the Church, yet they are very Catholic. The Knights of Columbus was founded as a lay organization in 1882 with the basic Catholic beliefs. Each local council appeals to the local Ordinary to be the Chaplain. The Knights of Columbus is still a lay organization, and operates with its own autonomy.